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It's Not Junk Science!

Representatives Chris Smith and Todd Aikin want to legally impose their religious beliefs on women. Some call it a war.

Let’s be honest. It’s not about the junk science. There were some crazy things said last week but they were crazy with a purpose.

Republican Rep. Todd Aikin (who is a policy blood brother to Republican Reps. Paul Ryan and Chris Smith) effectively said a woman’s subconscious can determine if she gets pregnant. He said as a result of a rape a women’s body can shut down its reproductive mechanisms. Of course this is junk science. And Republicans quickly reacted to the predictable public uproar by castigating Rep. Aikin and seeking his resignation from the race. (Two interesting exceptions to that list were former Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee and current Congressional candidate Rep. Chris Smith. Huckabee by his stout defense and Smith by his silence.)

But this had nothing to do with Republicans’ regard for science. In fact science is held in very low regard in the Republican party. This is best exemplified by the fact that the Republicans appointed Rep. Aikin to the Congressional Science Committee.

The real subject of Aikin’s discussion was not science but rape. And his real purpose was to delegitimize and trivialize rape. His implication is that, since pregnancies don’t really happen by rape, then it can’t be a real or serious reason for seeking an abortion. (Stated otherwise, a woman seeking an abortion for rape is probably lying about really being raped.) Further, his more insidious point is that there must be degrees and types of rape. Hence there must be ’legitimate’ and illegitimate rapes, etc. Of course this is a merely a logical progression from Rep Chris Smith’s proposal to distinguish ‘forcible rapes’ from, apparently, unforced rapes.

Why is it necessary to distinguish between types of rape? There must be a reason. And the reason is simple. Abortion is a simply defined act. If there are types and degrees of rape then rape is not a simply defined act. Rape is not rape. There must be a relative scale where some rapes are worse and some better than others. Some rapes might be important and legitimate and some illegitimate and unimportant. So if you are raising rape as a reason to do, or not do, something, you must further define and defend that rational by further classifying your rape into those categories. And there can be reasonable differences of opinion where different rapes fall on a relative scale. (Like science!)  So, as an example, simple rape alone is not a reason for claiming a simple right to abortion. And once you are on that slippery slope you have lost your moral ground. Rape cannot stand against abortion.              

All of this has exactly one purpose- ‘personhood’. Todd Akin, Chris Smith, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney and the Republican Party all support a constitutional amendment on personhood. A personhood amendment says “we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed”. It says that ‘life’ begins, and is sacred and protected, at conception. It requires the logical destruction of abortion. It abides no exceptions. Rape is not an exception, incest is not an exception, a woman’s health is not an exception. Consequences be dammed. Only the imminent death of the woman can potentially stand astride this mighty and sacred right. Personhood rights also call into legal question many existing infertility, reproductive, and contraception practices

Of course all of that makes sense if you hold that religious position and are willing to legally impose it on women that do not hold it. So, in the end, it is not about junk science it is about religious and personal freedom. Republicans Chris Smith and Todd Aikin believe that women have the legal right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness- unless they are pregnant. Based on these Republican religious beliefs, at conception women forfeit their legal rights to someone else. The real point of Aikin’s discussion was that women have ceretain rights and the Republicans want to take them away

War on!

Brian Froelich, Democratic Candidate for US Congress (NJ, 4th Dist.)

http://www.froelich4congress.com/
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John Jay August 30, 2012 at 05:29 PM
mary54: I included the Socialist reference as background -- but that really had little to do with my opinion of Sanger. Your quoting of information from Wikipedia as an attempt to lessen the eugenics and racist roots behind Sanger's organization doesn't do much to impress me, either. If Wikipedia is the best you can do, then look up "Eugenics in the United States" and the related links. You will find out about: - Eugenics "courts" where teen aged girls who got grades lower than a "B" were sterilized by court order. - People with IQs lower than 70 were sterilized - African-Americans were infected with syphilis on purpose and without their knowledge or consent! This goes on and on...and it's all tied to the people who started and supported Planned Parenthood. RE: "mary54 12:17 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012 John Jay: Because you claimed that Sanger was a Socialist, and, because of that, her ideas on family planning have become suspect to you."
Emily Jones August 30, 2012 at 06:03 PM
Because of parents like John Jay that teach abstinence and pose such a heinous view on teenage sex, Planned Parenthood is a necessity to prevent unwanted pregnancy. The teenagers and young adults in our society are so afraid to talk to their parents, that this is their only option. We need to stop looking at the past and looking at the outlet Planned Parenthood gives women today.
John Lott August 30, 2012 at 06:11 PM
The truth doesn’t hurt at all. It is a noble cause to eliminate unwanted children rather than watch them suffer in the ghetto. Clearly any woman impregnated by you if this is at all possible would chose an abortion rather than to let that poor child suffer your inferior mutated dna. As usual john jay continues to run his mouth and never addresses even one point that was made by anyone ever. It is truly pathetic that you are such an ignorant fool and a wanna be NRA member. You are giving the rest of them a bad name. In war the goal is to maim not kill and get the person off the battlefield so they can live and go home to their families and be taken care of under obama care. The police shoot to kill. Much like planned parenthood, the .40 caliber round (actually the 10MM but S&W refined it and produced the .40) and the JHP were developed to keep the population down in the ghetto. (can you hear the elvis song playing in the background?) After 8 FBI agents were decimated (2 fatally) by 2 ghetto boys with semi automatic assault rifles and a ton of ammo that were cranked up on crank and kept firing after being shot dozens of times by silly little 9MM FMJ rounds that went in and out the FBI decided they needed a more effective weapon. Now the police can score fully fatal vital organ failure when that .40 caliber JHP spirals into your torso and leaves a 10 inch hole when it comes out instead of waiting for you to bleed out with a dozen little holes in you.
John Lott August 30, 2012 at 06:11 PM
Why are you so paranoid anyway JJ? The IRS deals with some serious characters. Do you think the drug dealers that live in your neighborhood, the eastern euro trash mob or even the good ole mafia (al capone) happily pay taxes? Why does it scare you so much? You waiting in your basement for the tri-lateral commissions invasion you paranoid loon?
John Jay August 30, 2012 at 06:28 PM
Gee, John Lott (I guess you were banned under another name?)...I'm not scared of the government or little people like you. Chances are, you are probably PAID by the Democrats to write your garbage on this site. The Obama Justice Department set up "Fast and Furious" -- an ILLEGAL gun-runnig program that was designed to put guns in the hands of criminals in order to make law-abiding 2nd Amendment supporting citizens look bad. This is the classic "false flag" terror operation run by Obama's minions. It's no different than "Operation Northwoods" -- the false-flag terror operation that Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair, General Lyman Lemnitzer proposed to President John Kennedy to blow up airplanes with civilians on it to blame Russia or Cuba as a pretext to invade Cuba. (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf) So, when Obama gives the go-ahead for the Department of Homeland Security to arm itself with 1.4 BILLION rounds of handgun ammo -- that's FOUR TO FIVE BULLETS FOR EVERY MAN WOMAN AND CHILD in the U.S. -- what are we to believe? That DHS plans to give us flowers? No, it's going to be used to intimidate citizens into compliance. Make sure you report my post to the Democrats, or DHS, or your mother for all I care. I'm informed and I laugh at people like you.
John Jay August 30, 2012 at 06:45 PM
John Lott -- the FBI doesn't report to the Department of Homeland Security. Ammunition purchased by DHS doesn't get distributed to DoJ (Department of Justice). Don't try and act like you know what you're talking about -- you don't know me and you don't know what I know -- and you are ignorant about the purchase and distribution of arms among federal agencies. You're also very IGNORANT of the the 1986 Miami Dade shootout also. The bank robbers involved in this weren't from "the ghetto" -- they were white men named Michael Lee Platt and William Russell Matix. They were two loser Army veterans who turned to a life of crime. It's a terrible "lessons learned" defensive combat classes for police, military and civilians. The FBI agents outnumbered the bank robbers 4 to 1--but the FBI did not bring effective weapons, even though they were available -- and they did not secure the scene in an effective manner to execute an arrest against known, armed bank robbers. The only part you got right was the fact the FBI changed its standard sidearms. You lose. When you try to engage in a battle of wits, make sure you come better prepared next time.
John Lott August 30, 2012 at 07:01 PM
Wow you are so all powerful with your use of wikipedia you hilarious tool. Those boys were from the ghetto. Unlike you I am not an ignorant racist and I know that there are white boys in the ghetto. The people that live in the ghetto are people like you that have no desire to better themselves and are happy to live in their own filth. I have forgot more in the past 10 minutes than you will ever know in your lifetime tool. The democratic party and homeland security are watching you – you better reinforce the tinfoil around your house to keep out the NSA and keep having your mommy read catcher in the rye to you.
John Jay August 30, 2012 at 07:17 PM
Dancer_grl07 -- you're so ignorant of history it's laughable. Your hostility towards my family and/or kids indicate you come from a broken home and/or didn't accomplish much in life. Examine your faults first. Define "heinous view on teenage sex" for me. Does "heinous" mean my kids wear nice clothes that don't make them look like prostitutes and "gangsta" wannabes? Does "heinous" mean kids that grow up in a loving home, play sports, consistently remain on the honor roll and don't watch moronic shows like "Jersey Shore"? There's a great show! It tells them it's OK to be drunks, dopes, and get knocked up! Does "heinous" mean my kids will go college, make honor roll and start a good career instead of getting STDs or pregnant before they even get a high school diploma? Some pencil-necked geek from a government agency, or Socialist- / Communist-indoctrinated member of the Democratic party working in the public schools won't undermine my God-given right to raise a family as I see fit -- NOT THEM -- and certainly not YOU. RE: "Dancer_grl07 2:03 pm on Thursday, August 30, 2012 Because of parents like John Jay that teach abstinence and pose such a heinous view on teenage sex, Planned Parenthood is a necessity to prevent unwanted pregnancy. The teenagers and young adults in our society are so afraid to talk to their parents, that this is their only option. We need to stop looking at the past and looking at the outlet Planned Parenthood gives women today."
John Lott August 30, 2012 at 07:33 PM
John Jay - dancer girl has shown no hostility toward your family or kids. Probably since she knows you are just some tool in a mental institution that has never even had a girlfriend much less procreated. And even if she was hostile towards you that would indicate that she "come from a broken home and/or didn't accomplish much in life." once again you are such a pathetic ignorant little tool.
Emily Jones August 30, 2012 at 07:58 PM
John Jay you fail to be realistic about the society you are raising your kids in, if you even have them. You're "perfect" fictional children are doing all of the "bad" things in society as well. It is a part of growing up. The system does not need to undermine your parenting; your children will do that all on your own. And in order to keep daddy completely oblivious, the way he likes it, she's going to head off to the nearest planne parenthood to get her birth control pills. She will not be 16 and pregnant thanks to planned parenthood. No he bubble parent father.
ASimon August 30, 2012 at 08:32 PM
In much the same way reasonable people were shouted down at town meetings about healthcare, we are witnessing on this blog the "online comment" version of drowning out the truth. Though you will be outspent by a longtime incumbent like Chris Smith, please know that there are people out there rooting for you. I wish you luck and I think you can now take that question mark out of the title of your other blog on the Patch called " A Crazy World? "
John Jay August 30, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Dancer_grl07 -- Just because you are ignorant of history and are brain-washed by the Left Wing doesn't me or anyone in my family is like you or your children. You have a lot of nerve to pass judgement on me. I am and will continue to exercise my fundamental rights of a parent. It is not only my right, it is my duty to negate the Leftist propaganda and brain-washing our kids are subjected to in school. Some of the things my kids teachers have said to them: * "If your parents didn't vote for Obama, they are racist." (For all they know, my spouse was a conservative African-American) * "Republicans don't support civil rights." (Gee, Lincoln was a Republican and Republicans passed the 14th Amendment and the Civil Rights Act of 1964. President Woodrow Wilson enacted Jim Crow and supported the KKK). * "You're not allowed to wear clothing with anything that shows a weapon. (Gee, the "logo" for Manalapan has a cannon. Englishtown has Minute Man holding a musket.) * "We can't share any files about your children with you." (This was made following a question about standardized tests; etc.) Let's just say we had a little chat with the Superintendant. The teacher's were ordered to apologize to the kids. The school turned over all papers for review when they learned they would be sued under federal law that grants parents access to ANY file(s) about their kids.
Emily Jones August 30, 2012 at 08:45 PM
So now we are discussing school policies and your never ending vendetta against the school in which your children attend? With each passing comment you get further and further away from the article at hand.
John Lott August 30, 2012 at 08:59 PM
He ran out of lithium about 50 posts ago. Luckily this guy is all bark and no bite and living in a fantasy land and not sitting at home coloring his hair red and ordering .40 cal jhp online. Could you imagine if he really has kids and is like this the life that those kids will have to lead with no friends and all school personnel hating them, Are you really a dancer?
Emily Jones August 30, 2012 at 09:05 PM
I just do not understand, he's mention his fight with the school in many of his posts. In reality, if it was so horrible, send them to a different school. Sooner or later his children will rebel simply to get him to leave them alone. Yes I am a dancer.
John Lott August 30, 2012 at 09:14 PM
I do not think that he really even has a friend much less a family. Or if he does all of the things he claims happen are all happening in his fantasy land and he pretends to be normal around people. Where do you dance?
John Jay August 30, 2012 at 09:51 PM
Thanks for the personal attack. It certainly makes you look foolish. After you were "schooled" about the FBI incident you just limp away and make continued personal attacks. Very pathetic.
John Jay August 30, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Dancer_grl07: There was no "fight" with the school The public servants there (teachers) thought they were dealing with someone who did not understand state and federal law regarding how they can conduct themselves with students and about academic information collected and maintained on students. A teacher has no right, and is subject to disciplinary and legal action if they try to intimidate students because of student's race, religion, or political affilitation for that matter. A simple call from me and then my attorney corrected the matter when a history teacher went on a tyraid about Republicans being racist to the class. The teacher was forced to apologize to the class and never opened his/her bigoted mouth up again for the rest of the school year. In an unrelated matter, the school was asked to provide a copy of all files/records relating the children. We were informed that they were "internal files" and were not available for inspection. The school principal was promptly informed that he and his staff were in violation of Us Code Title 34, Part 99 (Family Education Rights and Privacy). Both the principal and the superintendent claimed to have "not been aware" of Title 34 Part 99 and that they'd have to consult with the Board of Ed's attorney. My attorney gave them 24 hours to confer and stated that he was drafting papers to be filed in the state and federal court at the 25th hour. Needless to say, the school complied.
Emily Jones August 30, 2012 at 10:42 PM
Sounds like you were fighting a battle with the school district on many different counts to me. All history teacher teach with a complete bias. Sounds as If someone cannot handle the opinions of others, but that's obvious based on the comments that are going on here. As I said earlier, you are continuously straying for the actual topics. You are bringing your personal life into an argument (making it open for interpretation) and then going off on a tangent whenever anyone choices to use it as an example. I could careless about your on going battles with the school district. God forbid teachers place learning and critical thinking over test scores. But again I digress from the original topic. We are choosing to not focus on the fact that our current congressman is choosing to take part in this "science." let's stray back to the original topic of the blatant disregard for womens right, which is going on with the republicans in congress right now.
John Jay August 30, 2012 at 10:42 PM
John Lott (and the countless other names you assumed): If you want to let your kids dress like prostitutes and thugs, engage in sex, drink, smoke; etc. that's your business and I really don't care. If you expect me to let a public school impose the views and opinions of Left Wing teachers and/or abortion clinics without my consent and or input, you've got another thing coming. Your personal attacks indicate I've hit a raw nerve in your personal life -- oh well, buster -- again, that's your problem not mine. So please, have a ball. The only people laughing will be me and the wife. Our kids will graduate with high honors and get a great life. Who know about yours or Dancer -- your ignorance will only hurt your kids.
John Jay August 31, 2012 at 12:23 AM
The Left Wing Democrats STRIVE to brainwash children and teens. The WANT them to become wards of the state through drugs, sex, crime, and ignorance. With dumbed-down masses, the The Left Wing Democrats can seize more power and control over the lives of others because of the social problems THEY CREATED!
Peter Augustus August 31, 2012 at 12:58 AM
I am sure some special ed kid (with parents that are democrats) is already teaching your kids all they need to know about the facts of like just like the union mailman with that govt pension gives your wife a lesson everyday when the ups guy isnt there.
John Jay August 31, 2012 at 01:08 AM
What wrong "Peter Augustus" -- you got booted again and have a new name? Stop being a troll and get a job.
Emily Jones August 31, 2012 at 01:21 AM
John Jay, I swear you come up with some of the most ludicrous ideas. Now you have been unable to face the subject of women's right. And the bogus comments about illegitimate and legitimate rape, created by the republican party (talk about brainwashing, they're pulling their "scientific facts" from thin air). You would rather make outlandish comments about brain washing. Clearly you have no faith in the society you live in, if everyone is so easily brain washed. And why may I ask have you not falling victim? Because your superior intelligence is clearly not the answer.
Mark Wendell August 31, 2012 at 01:51 AM
@Will mcAvoy, You can tell them the well known fact that the founding fathers were all pretty scared to inject religion into the countries politics but it will not matter. Thomas Jefferson even created the "Jefferson Bible" that was a torn up bible in which he cut out the moral versus he thought would guide people in their lives cutting out most of the hard religion and glued them into a notebook. You can take it out of the Ocean County Library. But they will say something like it was created by the liberal consp............ blah blah blah.
Mark Wendell August 31, 2012 at 01:59 AM
@ Tony, Yeah you are pretty correct here. The GOP use's guns and abortion to get dumb southerners to vote for them so they can give millionaires tax breaks. Mr. Obama has not done to much at all to curb guns, a disappointment to me, even as shooting's happen all around us.
Mark Wendell August 31, 2012 at 02:12 AM
John Jay says he doesn't support PPH because of Sagers racist roots so I guess he doesn't buy Ford, Semans, IBM, Coke,...etc....etc, pass the Mason Dixon line or even like America. That has to be the weakest argument around.
John Jay August 31, 2012 at 03:00 AM
Dancer_grl07 -- You need to re-read my posts. - Did I ever say that a woman should not be denied the ability to seek an abortion? - Did I ever say I supported Mr. Akin's "view" on abortion? What I did say was: * I don't support Planned Parenthood because of its racist and eugenics roots. * I don't support state-mandated sexual education that's taught by teachers with a Left Wing political agenda that are more interested in usurping the rights of a father and mother to be keeper of their children's innocence. * I don't support a Left Wing public school system that seeks to replace the inherent, God-given right to guide the lives of my children without their interference -- or tries to play me for a fool when I made simple requests for records about my kids. * I don't support a Left Wing political party that seeks to categorize good Americans who served their country in the armed forces and believe in the Constitution to be labeled potential terrorists. Meanwhile, that Left Wing political party was in charge of the BATFE that ran illegal guns into Mexico and tried to blame it on an American's inherent right to keep and bear arms. I have faith in society -- I just don't have faith in the Left Wing monsters running our government right now...
Mark Bellison August 31, 2012 at 11:38 AM
The whole problem with your argument is that you claim "god" given rights and god, santa and the tooth fairy do not exist!
John Jay August 31, 2012 at 01:39 PM
TO: Mark Bellison - So you're saying I have no rights to speech, arms, assembly, religion; etc.? "RE: Mark Bellison 7:38 am on Friday, August 31, 2012 The whole problem with your argument is that you claim "god" given rights and god, santa and the tooth fairy do not exist!"

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